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Andrew Betts | Sep 28, 2010, 04:32 am |
Paz wrote:
I've only just discovered these, and they look great; the next time I play a caster I'm definitely going to try them out.
I've noticed that something odd seems to be happening with detect magic. On the 'Large', 'Small', and 'Index Cards (3x5)' settings, only one card is displayed, with a certain amount of information on it. But on the 'Index Cards, Small Font (3x5)' and 'Index Cards (4x6)' more information is shown, including two tables. I assume all five card sizes should show the same information?
Perhaps related to this, on the 4x6 card setting, detect magic is actually spread over four cards, when all of the information could comfortably fit on two. There appears to be a hard break before each of the tables; the same thing happens on the 3x5 small font cards too.
Cards with tables display oddly sometimes because of the script that needs to be used in order to get the tables to split nicely between cards, Detect Magic is the card that has the most unfortunate problems.
Perram | Sep 28, 2010, 08:54 am |
Paz wrote:
I've only just discovered these, and they look great; the next time I play a caster I'm definitely going to try them out.
I've noticed that something odd seems to be happening with detect magic. On the 'Large', 'Small', and 'Index Cards (3x5)' settings, only one card is displayed, with a certain amount of information on it. But on the 'Index Cards, Small Font (3x5)' and 'Index Cards (4x6)' more information is shown, including two tables. I assume all five card sizes should show the same information?
Perhaps related to this, on the 4x6 card setting, detect magic is actually spread over four cards, when all of the information could comfortably fit on two. There appears to be a hard break before each of the tables; the same thing happens on the 3x5 small font cards too.
Each table in a spell gets its own card because there is no easy way for me to tell if a table will fit or not across every browser / OS / card size. At least not yet since the program does not use any Java Script.
Sometimes this looks like a waste... but otherwise I would have to just not print the tables at all.
Now the bug with detect magic... that is an odd one. I'll look into it and try and figure that one out... It should be printing more cards.
Paz | Sep 29, 2010, 04:33 am |
Perram wrote:
Each table in a spell gets its own card because there is no easy way for me to tell if a table will fit or not across every browser / OS / card size. At least not yet since the program does not use any Java Script.
Sometimes this looks like a waste... but otherwise I would have to just not print the tables at all.
Fair enough; I wondered if it was something like that. I only mentioned it in case it was linked to other other problem.
Perram wrote:
Now the bug with detect magic... that is an odd one. I'll look into it and try and figure that one out... It should be printing more cards.
That's great; thanks.
Ganryu | Sep 29, 2010, 11:51 am |
I've been trying desperately to get my hands on 3x5 index cards but it is IMPOSSIBLE to find them here in Sweden.
No stores carry them.
Amazon.com refuses to export them here.
Amazon.co.uk refuses to export them here.
Infact I can't seem to find any kind of card stock for printing stuff myself on decently. It's ridiculously overpriced. Ten times as expensive as if I could use index cards.
Joseph Mandato | Sep 29, 2010, 01:07 pm |
Great resource, Perram. I've passed the link to both of my gaming groups and I'm sure we'll get a lot of use out of it. We have 5 or 6 people in each group, and only a couple of core rulebooks, so it'll be a great help to have the spellcasters access these index cards rather than hog the core rulebooks :-)
Perram | Sep 29, 2010, 06:40 pm |
Ganryu wrote:
I've been trying desperately to get my hands on 3x5 index cards but it is IMPOSSIBLE to find them here in Sweden.
No stores carry them.
Amazon.com refuses to export them here.
Amazon.co.uk refuses to export them here.Infact I can't seem to find any kind of card stock for printing stuff myself on decently. It's ridiculously overpriced. Ten times as expensive as if I could use index cards.
Well, if you let me know what size index cards they use in Sweden, I'll be sure to add it into the list. I've been wanting to get some European index card sizes added, but up until now I don't know what size to make them for.
Perram | Sep 29, 2010, 06:40 pm |
Joseph Mandato wrote:
Great resource, Perram. I've passed the link to both of my gaming groups and I'm sure we'll get a lot of use out of it. We have 5 or 6 people in each group, and only a couple of core rulebooks, so it'll be a great help to have the spellcasters access these index cards rather than hog the core rulebooks :-)
Glad to hear you're enjoying it!
Ganryu | Sep 30, 2010, 02:51 pm |
Perram wrote:
Ganryu wrote:
Well, if you let me know what size index cards they use in Sweden, I'll be sure to add it into the list. I've been wanting to get some European index card sizes added, but up until now I don't know what size to make them for.I've been trying desperately to get my hands on 3x5 index cards but it is IMPOSSIBLE to find them here in Sweden.
No stores carry them.
Amazon.com refuses to export them here.
Amazon.co.uk refuses to export them here.Infact I can't seem to find any kind of card stock for printing stuff myself on decently. It's ridiculously overpriced. Ten times as expensive as if I could use index cards.
A7 is an accepted paper standard, but it's very tricky to find paper of that size in appropriate thickness. Most of which I find is either
A: Too thin
B: Too rough (surface isn't smooth)
C: Too hard
(and all too expensive)
Thankfully after some searching around I managed to find something as unexpected as a swedish web store owned by... An Index Card enthusiast (O_o) and I've now placed an order for 200x 3x5 blank white index cards.
I'm definitely looking forward to this. Will make spellcasting so much easier. I'm game mastering for a group of players completely new to the PF system (and DND for that matter). Having spells printed out for easy access will make everything so much easier.
Thanks again for an excellent little tool.
I have one suggestion for an improvement too. When you chose Select Individual Spells you get a huge list of spells. It would be lovely if the list had separators to group spells according to the first letters. So you would have a label "A" (with a line separator) followed by all spells beginning with an a. This would make finding the correct spells much quicker and I don't think it would take much work to change either.
In addition I find the list very difficult to read in the current form of
1 - 2 - 3 - 4
5 - 6 - 7 - 8
Might be because it'd be easier to follow in columns rather than rows when reading the list. If you combined my suggestion above with a column-based system for each letter that would probably increase readability tenfold!
1 - 5 - 9 - 13
2 - 6 - 10 - 14
3 - 7 - 11 - 15
4 - 8 - 12 - 16
Ganryu | Oct 5, 2010, 02:29 pm |
Sorry for being a bother :D
I got the index cards now and after some serious work I got the printer to print correctly, but there is something that looks strange.
There is a black border around the card and there is a gap between the edge of the card and the black border. The strange thing is that the gap is wider at the bottom of the card. It is much narrower (1/4th of an inch) at the top, right and left edges. Bottom is much closer to 5/8 of an inch. Is it supposed to be like that?
There is also an odd bug when I want to print some of the cards. So far it occurs with Dominate Person. Because the card is split in 3 separate segments the second and third segments want to "stick together".
Here is a picture to illstrate the margin problem:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/KGanryuS/perram_margins.jpg
Here is a picture to demonstrate the second problem:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/KGanryuS/perram_bug1.jpg
Of course this might just be something I've configured wrong.
Perram | Oct 6, 2010, 06:03 am |
Ganryu wrote:
Sorry for being a bother :D
I got the index cards now and after some serious work I got the printer to print correctly, but there is something that looks strange.
There is a black border around the card and there is a gap between the edge of the card and the black border. The strange thing is that the gap is wider at the bottom of the card. It is much narrower (1/4th of an inch) at the top, right and left edges. Bottom is much closer to 5/8 of an inch. Is it supposed to be like that?
There is also an odd bug when I want to print some of the cards. So far it occurs with Dominate Person. Because the card is split in 3 separate segments the second and third segments want to "stick together".
Here is a picture to illstrate the margin problem:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/KGanryuS/perram_margins.jpg
Here is a picture to demonstrate the second problem:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/KGanryuS/perram_bug1.jpg
Of course this might just be something I've configured wrong.
The first issue, with the margins, is the program working correctly, I'm afraid. You can adjust your margins in your print settings, but there will always be at least /some/ space around the printed card and the index card. How small you can make your margins is dependent on your printer. If you adjust your margins yourself, make sure you 'scale to fit' when you print.
(Edit: The margins chosen by default in my instructions, with a larger bottom margin, were chosen because they work with the widest range of printers, but you are certainly encouraged to adjust those settings to get the most out of your printer.)
The second issue... is not supposed to be happening. I'll see what can be done on that. What browser / version / OS are you using?
Ganryu | Oct 6, 2010, 10:26 am |
Perram wrote:
The first issue, with the margins, is the program working correctly, I'm afraid. You can adjust your margins in your print settings, but there will always be at least /some/ space around the printed card and the index card. How small you can make your margins is dependent on your printer. If you adjust your margins yourself, make sure you 'scale to fit' when you print.
(Edit: The margins chosen by default in my instructions, with a larger bottom margin, were chosen because they work with the widest range of printers, but you are certainly encouraged to adjust those settings to get the most out of your printer.)
So I assume the margin is actually not supposed to be evne all around the card.
Perram wrote:
The second issue... is not supposed to be happening. I'll see what can be done on that. What browser / version / OS are you using?
I'm using Vista. The odd error hapens both in Firefox (v3.5.13) and Internet Explorer.
Perram | Oct 6, 2010, 12:29 pm |
Ganryu wrote:
Perram wrote:
The first issue, with the margins, is the program working correctly, I'm afraid. You can adjust your margins in your print settings, but there will always be at least /some/ space around the printed card and the index card. How small you can make your margins is dependent on your printer. If you adjust your margins yourself, make sure you 'scale to fit' when you print.
(Edit: The margins chosen by default in my instructions, with a larger bottom margin, were chosen because they work with the widest range of printers, but you are certainly encouraged to adjust those settings to get the most out of your printer.)
So I assume the margin is actually not supposed to be evne all around the card.
Perram wrote:
The second issue... is not supposed to be happening. I'll see what can be done on that. What browser / version / OS are you using?I'm using Vista. The odd error hapens both in Firefox (v3.5.13) and Internet Explorer.
On a lot of inkJet printers, especially lower cost ones, yeah, the minimum margins they can have are 0.25 on the top and sides, but they also have a minimum of .5 on the bottom.
It has that uneven margins so that I can fit as much card as I possibly can on each index card.
Ganryu | Oct 7, 2010, 02:46 pm |
Well either way this is an excellent application! Already printed six spells for next gaming session, but alas the black ink ran out so :P
I have no real comments or suggestions on how the app could be improved aside from what I mentioned before about how the spells are sorted. Everything else about it is pretty much as good as I can imagine it to be!
Perram | Oct 8, 2010, 05:39 am |
Ganryu wrote:
Well either way this is an excellent application! Already printed six spells for next gaming session, but alas the black ink ran out so :P
I have no real comments or suggestions on how the app could be improved aside from what I mentioned before about how the spells are sorted. Everything else about it is pretty much as good as I can imagine it to be!
And thanks for the report! Glad you enjoy the cards! You'll see a lot of your ideas and bug reports addressed in the next update I do. :)
Perram | Nov 16, 2010, 06:18 pm |
Small updates to the application!
Updated Spells Database - Mike updated his spellDB this week and it includes many small error fixes for the spells! Thanks again Mike! You rock!
Playing Card Size Added - After spending some time with a ruler and a lot of wasted pages, I've successfully made a card size option matching the standard playing card size. (2.5" x 3.5") Now they will fit in all your card sleeves as well as match up with other card products available for use with Pathfinder! They'll print 9 to a page and are the new 'default' option.
Font & Visual Changes - Changed some of the site's general font usage and main style, as well as moving back to a sans-serif font for the spell cards themselves.
Let me know how you like the changes. Still hunting down some of the bugs brought up in this thread. Expect an even bigger update soon. :)
Slayer Dragonwing | Nov 17, 2010, 06:51 am |
*Takes deep breath* thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!
I've been looking for something like this for ages. A while back I started trying to get spell cards out for all of the non-core books I had for 3.5 (I have a lot), but I ran into problems with organizing them and there was no way to find the ones I had listed.
I was wondering if you could, just maybe:
-Release the exact same program, but for 3.5 (I would think it wouldn't be that hard, just a copy and paste) for those of us who have a lot of 3.5 spells we can't technically convert to Pathfinder.
-Make there a way to save spells that you've input and aren't in the system (it might have this already, but I'm at work so don't have time to play around with it right now.)
Thanks a whole bunch, this should really help me and the other gamers I know a lot.
Krome | Nov 17, 2010, 07:09 am |
Slayer Dragonwing wrote:
*Takes deep breath* thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!
I've been looking for something like this for ages. A while back I started trying to get spell cards out for all of the non-core books I had for 3.5 (I have a lot), but I ran into problems with organizing them and there was no way to find the ones I had listed.
I was wondering if you could, just maybe:
-Release the exact same program, but for 3.5 (I would think it wouldn't be that hard, just a copy and paste) for those of us who have a lot of 3.5 spells we can't technically convert to Pathfinder.
-Make there a way to save spells that you've input and aren't in the system (it might have this already, but I'm at work so don't have time to play around with it right now.)Thanks a whole bunch, this should really help me and the other gamers I know a lot.
I'm at work too and can't check, but doesn't it have an option to input custom spells? That might work for those 3.5 spells. Course you'd have to do all of the copy and paste yourself, and it probably would be lost when you log out... :-) But hey, copying and pasting the same spell a few dozen times just makes you a better gamer right!? lol]
I really the changes introduced. Thank you so much for your hard work!
Perram | Nov 17, 2010, 07:47 am |
Krome wrote:
Slayer Dragonwing wrote:
*Takes deep breath* thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!
I've been looking for something like this for ages. A while back I started trying to get spell cards out for all of the non-core books I had for 3.5 (I have a lot), but I ran into problems with organizing them and there was no way to find the ones I had listed.
I was wondering if you could, just maybe:
-Release the exact same program, but for 3.5 (I would think it wouldn't be that hard, just a copy and paste) for those of us who have a lot of 3.5 spells we can't technically convert to Pathfinder.
-Make there a way to save spells that you've input and aren't in the system (it might have this already, but I'm at work so don't have time to play around with it right now.)Thanks a whole bunch, this should really help me and the other gamers I know a lot.
I'm at work too and can't check, but doesn't it have an option to input custom spells? That might work for those 3.5 spells. Course you'd have to do all of the copy and paste yourself, and it probably would be lost when you log out... :-) But hey, copying and pasting the same spell a few dozen times just makes you a better gamer right!? lol]
I really the changes introduced. Thank you so much for your hard work!
The program does have a way to input your own custom cards one at a time. There is no reason that you couldn't input your 3.5 spells using the custom card creator.
I am working on a way to let you save your own cards to your own computers... but I have to be careful because other programs have been shut down due to copyright violations when they let users create custom content.
Perram | Nov 21, 2010, 03:38 pm |
Major new feature in the latest release:
New Card Backgrounds! - At many user's requests, I've added backgrounds to the spell cards! A couple of original backgrounds plus a background for every PFS faction for you PFS players! If you've got a suggestion for new backgrounds to add, let me know!
I hope to add several new background options to the spell cards! So if you've got any great ideas or request let me know!
Perram | Nov 22, 2010, 06:55 am |
Quick mini-update:
1) Tweaked the controls a bit moving selection of individual spells to the top of the menu, it is now also on by default.
2) Updated the instructions to suggest the use of 0.25 inch margins, or 0.75 cm margins when printing, the old 0.5 inch margins wont allow Playing Card Size cards to fit.
PurpleWizard | Nov 24, 2010, 04:21 pm |
I appreciate the hard work you've done, but unfortunately, I've run into a number of problems.
1) Using Firefox 3.8.5: no matter what I do, the text on some spells invariably runs off the end of the card, causing it to be cut off, rendering it incomplete. Some of the cards are skewed out of alignment as well.
2) I switched to IE 7, the results were a bit better.
When I tried to use "page setup" to establish the 0.25 margin, I received several error message popups:
An error has occurred using the page setup dialog.
Error code: 16
Object doesn't support this property or method.
Another one, this time with error code 12 follows that popup.
Tried print preview, another error popup:
Line: 1405
Char: 1
Error: invalid argument
Code: 0
URL: res://ieframe.dll/preview.dlg
Dunno if my IE is knackered (I rarely use it; prefer Firefox) or what.
In either case, a little assistance would be appreciated, please.
Perram | Nov 24, 2010, 06:32 pm |
PurpleWizard wrote:
I appreciate the hard work you've done, but unfortunately, I've run into a number of problems.
1) Using Firefox 3.8.5: no matter what I do, the text on some spells invariably runs off the end of the card, causing it to be cut off, rendering it incomplete. Some of the cards are skewed out of alignment as well.
2) I switched to IE 7, the results were a bit better.
When I tried to use "page setup" to establish the 0.25 margin, I received several error message popups:
An error has occurred using the page setup dialog.
Error code: 16
Object doesn't support this property or method.Another one, this time with error code 12 follows that popup.
Tried print preview, another error popup:
Line: 1405
Char: 1
Error: invalid argument
Code: 0
URL: res://ieframe.dll/preview.dlgDunno if my IE is knackered (I rarely use it; prefer Firefox) or what.
In either case, a little assistance would be appreciated, please.
Well, the problems you ran into with IE are problems with your browser, I'm afraid. There is nothing in my program that could cause those errors in IE.
As for the problems in Firefox, did you mean 3.6.5? If so, I need to know a few things to help track down your problem:
1) Operating System.
2) Which card size are you trying to print?
3) Which cards in particular?
PurpleWizard | Nov 24, 2010, 11:53 pm |
Oops, meant 3.5.8. (got the last two transposed, sorry!)
1. Windows XP SP1.
2. Wizards level 0; card size large; black and white; print level in title. (If you want other levels, I'll post them, but this will do for starters.)
3.
Detect magic (overrun/cut off)
Ghost Sound (overrun/cut off)
Message (overrun/cut off)
Prestidigitation (overrun/cut off)
Read Magic (overrun/cut off)
With a four-card layout, in print preview, there's 3 cards in one row, and 1 in the last. The 2nd row one doesn't have a border bottom.
Additional note: your "from" tag sometimes overlaps with the bottom paragraph, making it extremely difficult to read, particularly if it's a long spell. I suspect it's due to the size limitation of the card, so you might want to make it a bit fainter or find someplace else to put it.
Additional note 2: with the card size of 9 per page, the problem is even WORSE, and there's a misalignment of the 0-level spell Detect Magic (table 2 - only the first line on the card is visible, anything after that is gone), and the text isn't properly aligned in the tables to begin with.
PurpleWizard | Nov 25, 2010, 02:53 am |
Okay, I solved the four-card layout problem (corrected the orientation setting - must have forgotten to reset it after my last print run with another project) - but the overrun/cutoff thing still occurs.
I will note that if I choose index card, and then blow it up on print preview to 175 percent, everything fits perfectly (including the "From" (created by... line)). Guess that's one way to solve the problem, heh.
Guess I can create a literal spellbook with one page per spell. ;) Bit of a pain, but if it works, it works.
BTW, the website looks wonderful - nice and professional. I likey! :D
Perram | Nov 25, 2010, 05:45 am |
PurpleWizard wrote:
Okay, I solved the four-card layout problem (corrected the orientation setting - must have forgotten to reset it after my last print run with another project) - but the overrun/cutoff thing still occurs.
I will note that if I choose index card, and then blow it up on print preview to 175 percent, everything fits perfectly (including the "From" (created by... line)). Guess that's one way to solve the problem, heh.
Guess I can create a literal spellbook with one page per spell. ;) Bit of a pain, but if it works, it works.
BTW, the website looks wonderful - nice and professional. I likey! :D
Ok, I'm having a hard time re-producing the problem on my end. Can you take a screen shot of the print preview for those cards?
Detect Magic is a problem all it's own... and a known bug. For some reason it isn't working like it should! But the rest of the cards I need to straighten out.
I imagine it is a font problem. That's usually what this boils down to.
Also, have you considered upgrading to Firefox 3.6 and seeing if it solves the problem? I still need to fix it for 3.5, but if you upgrade and it fixes it it helps me narrow down the problem.
PurpleWizard | Nov 25, 2010, 07:12 am |
Perram wrote:
Ok, I'm having a hard time re-producing the problem on my end. Can you take a screen shot of the print preview for those cards?
Detect Magic is a problem all it's own... and a known bug. For some reason it isn't working like it should! But the rest of the cards I need to straighten out.
I imagine it is a font problem. That's usually what this boils down to.
Also, have you considered upgrading to Firefox 3.6 and seeing if it solves the problem? I still need to fix it for 3.5, but if you upgrade and it fixes it it helps me narrow down the problem.
Here you go:
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/prestidigitation.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/message.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/ghostsound.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/readmagic.jpg
This is using large cards (4 per page), at 100 percent size. Shrink to fit produces identical results.
Majuba | Nov 25, 2010, 07:47 am |
PurpleWizard wrote:
Here you go:
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/prestidigitation.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/message.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/ghostsound.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/RandyVR/readmagic.jpg
Linkified them.
Perram | Nov 25, 2010, 07:32 pm |
PurpleWizard wrote:
Upgrading to 3.6 made the problem worse, added several other cards as well:
Arcane Mark
Light
Ok, it is definitely a Font issue. For some reason your computer is rendering the fonts twice the size of what the CSS instructions are.
I just tested the app on a friend's fresh XP installation with a brand new install of Firefox... and couldn't reproduce the results, it was working as intended.
Which makes me think this is a unique problem to your machine in particular. Especially since you seem to also be having problems with IE.
That said: I'm not giving up yet! If you email me at jefferson.thacker@gmail.com I'll be more than glad to work with you one-on-one to fix the problem. I can't guarantee a fix, but I'll try my best!
Also: if anyone else is having similar problems, please get in touch, it may help me track down what's going on and implement a fix.
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